Sunday, August 30, 2009

Banned by LGF?

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Single Payer OUTLAWS Private Health Care

That's right, you won't be allowed to pay for it out of pocket.

David Hedrick approaching 1 million views

Never apologize for being American

Nifty Nick at Notoriously Conservative has a great post this day:

JFK’S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60’s when Charles De Gaulle decided to pull out of NATO. De Gaulle said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible.Rusk responded “Does that include those who are buried here?”De Gaulle did not respond.


There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying “Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?”

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: “Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?”

Naturally, I picked out the ones that made the point of how stupid the French can be, but there are more... and it turns out they all make the point of French arrogance and stupidity! LOL

ABC and NBC refuse to air ad

ABC, the network which brought you the hour long infomercial for ObamaCare by Obama himslef refuses to air this ad alleging it is partisan. ABC, you have a nasty case of projection there. NBC, of course, is run by Obama suckup Jeffrey Immelt of GE which stands to make billions from obama care and the government take over of not just our healthcare, but our private medical records.

Of course, for cable news the vast majority of Americans go to Fox News Channel so the informed already know about this. But, for those too frugal or too poor to afford cable or internet, they're stuck with these alphabet state controlled propaganda machines. I hope they have the good sense to turn on still free radio!

Saturday, August 29, 2009

Police: You can't take THAT sign into the Townhall

If you do not daily read Holger Awakens, you really should. Among the incredibly terrifying truths you will find there is the following video of a police officer threatening a townhall attendee if he did not put his sign down (ie, you can't take THAT sign into the townhall, not ANY sign just THAT sign) that the attendee would be charged with "anything" the officer wants to charge him with. . If you think that Obama and his followers respect and follow the Constitution, then you need to re-examine your conclusion based on evidence such as in this video.

Friday, August 28, 2009

John Shadegg townhall of August 27, 2009

I attended a second townhall with my congressional representative, John Shadegg Thursday, August 27, 2009. This was smaller than his townhall of August 8 but it was in a very different area more like my own neighborhood. Shadegg has been working on the laws governing heath insurance for most of his time in the Congress. He knows of what he speaks. I was not in favor of any changes until I heard his suggestions and the reasons why. I suggest you all listen to these videos.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8
Part 9
Part 10
Part 11
Part 12 - notice the very young boy at about 6:30. The crowd was impressed by his ability to stand there and speak in front of them without obvious nervousness. I hope he grows out of his wrongheadedness.
Part 13
Part 14
Part 15 - at the very end of this one you can hear me suggesting to Congressman Shadegg that some small sum of money could be saved if Medicare stopped paying for Viagra and Ciallis.

Trent Franks townhall of August 25, 2009

I attended Trent Franks townhall on Tuesday, August 25, 2009. The first thing they did was view a screening of 33 Minutes. If you weren't already scared out of your mind, you were when it was over. And with good reason too. 33 minutes is about how long it would take for a missile carrying a nuclear warhead to either US territory or to US Airspace where, if detonated, the country would be devastated by Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP).

Trent Franks is not my current congressional representative. When the districts were redrawn, I was moved into John Shadeggs district. Trent Franks is a good man of deep faith.

The videos are up on youtube but due to a poor seating choice, they are, for the most part, better treated as audio files.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8
Part 9
Part 10
Part 11
Part 12
Part 13
Part 14
Part 15
Part 16
Part 17

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Summary of Phone Health Care Town Hall of AZ Congressman Harry Mitchell

This blogger (who i found through a simple google search) has a fairly good summary of AZ Congressman Harry Mitchell's Phone Health Care Town Hall which took place last night:

1) He claims that the bill is “far from ready to be signed.” This I found odd. Why, then, are Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean running around claiming that the dang thing needs to be passed as soon as everybody gets back from their summer recess?

2) He was, in my opinion, kind of fuzzy on whether or not he supported a government option. He started to use the words “alternative option” and a red flag went up in my mind for doublespeak. Several people asked him about the government option. I didn’t end the call with hearing a clear enough answer from him on this issue. This concerns me.

3) He did say that he wouldn’t sign a bill that didn’t promote heath care insurance competition. Again, this seems in direct conflict with the desires of President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, et al. for a single-payer system. He also said that he wouldn’t sign a bill that increased the deficit. Given the current budget deficit, not sure how you do the latter and provide health care to an entire country.

4) He was not in favor of providing health care for illegal immigrants, although he wasn’t clear on how you stop illegal immigrants from using U.S. emergency rooms as their primary care physicians. This is a huge issue for those of us in Arizona.

5) He didn’t answer one woman’s question as to whether he would support government funded abortions through the health care bill.

6) Several times throughout the call, Harry stopped the questioning to take polls—e.g. “Are you happy with your current health care provider? Press 1 for yes; 2 for no.” I found this a bit hokey and would have rather he used the time to take an extra question or two.

It's a good summary with very little bias.

Be Afraid; Be Very Afraid

If you're not already scared witless by the things going on in this country at the behest of socalled Democrats (who are really statists of a variety of stripes but mostly Marxists), then get ready to be scared witless.

My friend Holger posts today regarding Obama's "green jobs czar". Do not miss it! Holger also makes reference to a blog which I added to my links yesterday, Tevor Loudon's NewZeal. I intend to go through their past postings this weekend and I suggest you do as well.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Video of John McCain TownHall

I've uploaded the videos for the John McCain Town Hall.

part 1 - pre event
part 2 - error on my part. duplicate of part 1 and no sound. go figure. ignore please
part 3
part 4
part 5
part 6
part 7

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

McCain Health Care Town Hall in Sun City

I attended Senator McCain's Health Care Town Hall today. My conclusion is that he is, for the most part, on the right side of this issue. Of course, he does have some completely wrong ideas on other issues (like he actually believes the words of a terrorist which told him it used abu ghraib as a recruiting tool - TERRORISTS LIE!) and some of the details of this issue which cause me to conclude that he's an out of touch elitist.

I'm working on getting the videos up on youtube now (Start here but look for an update; will leave the uploads running while I attend the Trent Franks Town Hall).

One thing that was a very pleasant (mild) suprise, was the numbers of attendees. I was there an hour early and even then it was standing room only and the overflow rooms were filling up.

One other thing which was not a pleasant surprise was the incredibly short duration of the townhall. He was there a grand total of 1 hour and 20 minutes. This left the vast majority of those of us with comments and questions unable to speak. The size of the venue was also apparently far too small since local news is already reporting irate constituents who were denied entry.

Monday, August 24, 2009

More Arizona Republican Memebers of Congress having Townhalls

Democrats are no where to be found where someone might actually speak freely.

But, my congressman, John Shadegg, is having two additional Health Care Town Halls:

Upcoming Health Care Town Halls in the Third Congressional District of Arizona

Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Time: 6:30 p.m. – 8:00 p.m. (doors will open at 6:00pm)
Location: Thunderbird High School Auditorium
1750 W Thunderbird Rd
Phoenix, AZ 85023

Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009
Time: 7:00 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. (doors will open at 6:30pm)
Location: Boulder Creek High School
40404 N. Gavilan Peak Pkwy
Anthem, AZ 85086

This is going to be a very busy week. Senator John McCain, Congressman Trent Franks, and John Shadegg are all having townhalls this week. I'll go to as many of them as I can and record as much of each town hall as I can (made available to you on my youtube channel).

Sunday, August 23, 2009

Tammy Duckworth LIED

I watched Fox News Sunday on the local affiliate this morning to see Tammy Duckworth and Arlen Specter lie about the HR3200 and about the VA's use of Your Life Your Choice. I agree with what Jonah Goldberg said about the episode and, since he's a professional writer I'll just quote him:

I just watched Tammy Duckworth try her best to defend the VA "death book" on Fox News Sunday. The Iraq war veteran was severely wounded as an army aviator, losing both her legs, and is currently an Assistant Secretary at the VA. The administration sent her out to defend the book and to push back against Jim Towey, who first raised the issue. While she admirably held her own, her talking points were often very, very lame (she kept insinuating that Towey's bitter his $5 book isn't free of charge to vets). The upshot was she defended this irretrievably gross book on the merits and attacked the messenger to boot. And here's the thing, the death book is doomed, doomed. It's obvious Obama will pull the thing, because it's the right thing to do and because it's a political no-brainer while he's trying to shake off the "death panel" albatross. So they sent out Duckworth to stake a position that will be reversed, making her look like a fool. Just give it time.

So, Tammy Duckworth and Arlen Specter, thank you for your service. Now quite trying to help the statists take over the country! You know darn well you wouldn't support it unless you thought you'd be part of the elite! oh, but Tammy, we know you were born into it.

Saturday, August 22, 2009

Arthur Frommer verbally smacked on his own blog!

The other day, I posted about Arthur Frommer and his ignorance about Arizona. Today, I encourage everyone to read the comments in response to his idiocy on his own blog! He has been verbally taken out back behind the woodshed and beaten to to a mental pulp with a switch of his own choosing by over 600 freedom-loving Americans.

Many Arizonans posted sentiments similar to my own... good Frommer! We don't need you around anyhow!

Local radio host and former Congressman JD Hayworth said as much on KFYI yesterday too. Speaking of JD, he does a Weenie of the Week feature every Friday afternoon (in the 5 o'clock hour). Yesterdays Weenie of the Week, overwhelming voted the honor by his listeners, was the MSNBC3 who blatantly LIED about Chris The Libertarian who is black and a threat to no one.

More Arizona Members of Congress having Townhalls

Have you noticed it's only the AZ Republican Members of Congress having townhalls?

Trent Franks scroll down and click view

Aug 22: Mohave County
Time:1:00 - Congressman Franks will host a screening of "33 Minutes," a half hour film about America's missile defense in a new missile age.2:00 - Congressman Franks' opening remarks, question & answer session
Location: 1st Assembly of God Church1850 Gates AvenueKingman, AZ 86401(Just off Stockton Hill Road)

Aug 25: Maricopa County
Time: 5:00 - Congressman Franks will host a screening of "33 Minutes," a half hour film about America's missile defense in a new missile age.6:00 - Congressman Franks' opening remarks, town hall question & answer session
Location: Community Church of Joy21000 N. 75th AvenueGlendale, AZ 85308(Located just north of Loop 101 on the west side of 75th Avenue. Meeting will be help in the worship center, in the main sanctuary.)

Friday, August 21, 2009

Is AARP lying?

If AARP isn't endorsing Obamacare, then why are they sponsoring telephone townhalls for Members of Congress who are supporting Obamacare?

Good News! More wimps avoiding AZ!

I cannot believe the wimpy sensibilities of "travel guide writer Arthur Frommer" who says he is skipping Arizona for safety reasons after he was "shocked beyond measure" after he saw a "civilian carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks".

I heard about this on the local radio news just moments ago. Full story here. And Frommers blog entry on the topic is here.

Well Mr. Frommer, we may only be the SouthWest, but we don't need you around anyhow.

I am glad to hear that wimps like you are avoiding my magnificent state where it's legal to carry weapons for ANY reason. I will be avoiding your wimpy travel guides, not just temporarily, but for the rest of my life. Period. No negotiations with idiots who advocate that I give up a single one of my God-given rights. EVER!

I already wrote in defense of the guy with the AR15. I'd much rather share my state with him than with wimps like Frommer.

Thursday, August 20, 2009

AZ Senator McCain public appearances

Arizona Senator McCain will be at the following events:

Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:45am
Superior High School - 100 Mary Drive Superior, AZ 85273 (520) 689-3112
The meeting will discuss the proposed SoutheastArizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act.
This event includes Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick and Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 2 events
11am Healthcare Townhall
Grace Bible Church 19280 N. 99th Ave

5:30-7:30pm Politics on the Rocks Networking Event
Intercontinental Montelucia Resort & Spa in Paradise Valley

Wednesday, August 26, 2009
5:30 Healthcare Townhall
North Phoenix Baptist Church
5757 N Central Ave

Arizonan jarring the statists

I saw this clip at StoptheACLU noting that MSNBC tried to paint the legal carrying of weapons in phoenix as racist against the first black president. I thought the fellow looked very familiar so I checked my video and I think he is the last guy to speak at the Q&A. I'm not sure if it's the same guy and I know it doesn't matter. It's just a curiosity really. But, if it is the same person, I can tell you that as I left the Townhall, I spent a few minutes in the back of the room right next to him. He was speaking very politely and very earnestly about Ron Paul. Not that that matters either (and no I am not and was not a Ron Paul supporter). My point is simply that he demonstrated a calm, quiet, patient manner the entire time he was at the townhall.

And, for those of you unfamiliar with the laws of the state of Arizona, no permits nor registration of ordinary weapons is required here. Open carry of any legal weapon is perfectly legal here. AZ is also a "shall issue" state of concealed carry permits. So, the hysterical with wimpy sensibilities and irrational fear of guns should just get over being "jarred" by the sight of a weapon in the hands of someone who is not law enforcement or military (they probably don't even know what posse comitatus means); they should also stop attempting to change the internal laws of the state of Arizona. And, to those who yearn to live free to carry weapons and defend themselves, move here to Arizona!

Format Change - but The Book of the Banned is permalinked

Just a very short note to all who come looking for The Book of the Banned. I've changed the format to allow for the last 25 posts to show up on the main page. But, The Book of the Banned is now and will always be permalinked in the right sidebar!

We continue to welcome all those who have been summarily kicked to the curb, those who have been told to "Get your own blog!" only to be stalked, harrased, and had their identities outted! Join us at our network of blogs and in the Chat (linked under the picture of the dust storm also in the right sidebar).

UPDATE: Currently there are 926 Insidious Bad Applies listed in The Book of the Banned! Keep sending those updates in. We're headed for 1000!

SRP begs for stimulus funds for "Smart Meters"

Salt River Project (SRP), local provider of electricity to the metropolitan Phoenix area has gone begging to the Federal Government for nearly $80 million to deploy "smart" meters & a meter data management system, a secure intelligent system integration project, and for a study to assess the potential for underground carbon sequestration.

I don't want to be an alarmist on the topic of "smart" meters. I understand and support the move to a more efficient way to measure a customers use of electricty because, as a Capitalist, more efficient delivery of goods and services should bring prices down but since utilities are actually monopolies in their respective areas, it doesn't. I understand and wholeheartedly endorse the use of technology to make our electrical grid more secure against any and all threats although no one has yet invented a way of protecting us all from the ultimate threat of Electromagnetic Discharge in the unfortunate event of an airbust nuclear attack.

BUT, when I hear certain politicians (President Obama) talk about the concept that smart meters will ultimately (someday) be capable of regulating our electric usage, that concerns me. I don't want the USA to become a country where the government tells an individual that they only have a certain allotment of energy. If a person has the means to pay for something (legal) and is willing to do so, then leave them alone! Yes, even algore and his Tennessee mansion (which uses thousands of times the amount of energy of a typical Tennesse home - yes, he's a hypocrit for telling everyone else to use less but I don't think he's stiffing the power company).

And, since this is almost exclusively predicated upon reducing carbon in our atmosphere, even though it is NOT a pollutant, which in turn is based almost exclusively on the fear of global warming (in spite of the fact that the planet has NOT warmed in the last decade, and in spite of history showing that warm periods are better for humans and all living things), I can't get behind the effort.

Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Analysis of HR3200

Bless this fellow who had the time, the energy, and was willing to do an analysis of what is really in this monstrosity. Among his findings...the Federal government will decide not only who lives and dies, but also who is allowed to have children (not too many too quickly now!), they'll tell you how to parent, the school health offices will become federal agents (you think it's bad now? just wait until they start shipping your kid around for abortions when she makes a mistake - God forbid!, they'll mandate vaccines (or what?), and they'll share ALL your health information with law enforcement (WHY??) :

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment.

PG 993 Govt will establish school based health clinics.

PG 844-845 OMG! This Home Visitation Prog. includes Govt coming in2 ur house & telling u how 2 parent

Pg 838-840 Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation Prog 4 families w young kids & families expect kids.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Svcs – “increasing birth intervals btwn pregnancies.”

Pg 765 Sec 1711 Govt will require Preventative Services including vaccines.

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement purposes, the Secretary-HHS will give Attorney General access to ALL data.

Do not assume they've given up! They never give up! The goal remains full federal government control over YOU. They are just switching tactics and maybe realizing that it might take longer. But they are NOT giving up! And neither should we! Keep up the pressure on everyone!


PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians

Why does it include veterinarians??

Monday, August 17, 2009

Get outta my state, ya Commie!

Local newsbits...

Phoenix Police have NO 1st Amendment Rights

Just reported locally....

Phoenix police who were on duty at Sky Harbor Airport were told if their personal vehicles which they drove to the airport, had any anti-Obama stickers, to park their vehicles against the walls of the buildings so they could not be seen when Obama landed.

Just one more Obama outrage.

But, we do still have our 2nd Amendment rights here in AZ...

A man carrying an AR-15 assault rifle attended the protests. Police at the scene said he did not need a permit for the gun and he was not arrested. They said the man was walking around and was not involved in any protest activity.
The man declined to give his name to The Arizona Republic.
``Because I can do it,'' he said when asked why he was armed.
``In Arizona, I still have some freedoms.

CNN says these guys were among the Obama supporters! Damn, now that's brave! CNN reporter, of course, found it "kind of jarring".
Some local personalities are saying oh, gee, maybe he shouldn't have done that; it just wasn't the time or the place. BULL! He had every right to carry that or any other legal weapon any place it was legal! Why should Arizonans give up their rights for the wimpy sensibilities of outsiders or media personalities? Furthermore, these people have been threatened; they've been told that they are being followed and that their homes might just "go up; poof!"

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

There was a Citizens Townhall today across the street from where the Prez spoke to the VFW. Former Congressman J. D. Hayworth hosted with AZ Congressman Trent Franks and Dr. M Zhudi Jasser appearing. Signs and/or slogans at the protest today which numbered close to 1000:

Marx was not a Founding Father
Get the Facts
Kill the Bill
Say no to Communism, Fascism, Socialism
Private Insurance Please
Read Our Lips! No New Taxes
No Obama Hellcare
Redistribute My Work Ethic
Obama Congress You've Failed You're Fired
Protest BO Your policies STINK
ObamaCare: Government Acting Stupidly
Nov 2010 We're Gonna Party Like it's 1994
Deficit Neutral = Bankrupt
Mr. President, I'll keep my freedom, my money, & my guns... You can keep the "Change"
ObamaCare NO! We Can't
Give the Dems "End of Congress" Counseling
Good Riddance Nov 2, 2010
Not fooled by Obama's fake town hall meetings

How to tell Obama is lying - he says "That's the truth" about something he said or "That's just not true" about the opposition.

Sunday, August 16, 2009

Summaries of the townhalls are done!

I have completed the summaries of Congressman Shadegg's townhall which I attended last Saturday.

Please, especially note this portion in segment 18:

SCOTUS ruled that if you get your health care from your employer under an ERISA plan and that plan wrongfully denies you care you cannot sue the plan for damages.
In this bill, the ruling of ERISA saying that insurance companies that sell ERISA plans are immune, are applied to employer provided plans going forward.Shadegg confronted Waxman about that point. Waxman turned as red as the red stripe on that flag. Last week Pelosi called the health insurance industry crooks, evil and that Pelosi was going to destroy them and that their day of ruling America is over in a bill where she cut, what Shadegg thinks, is a secret backroom deal to give them immunity when they kill or hurt somebody in insurance coverage denials.

Saturday, August 15, 2009

Cuts in medical care costs will inevitably fall on seniors and the chronically ill

70-80% of all health care in this country goes to senior citizens and/or the chronically ill. The chronically ill includes people who live perfectly normal lives but do so with potentially life threatening conditions such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, asthma (that's right, you'll die of a heart attack if you don't get help).

So where exactly could the alleged savings in cost come from? From the 20-30% of health care that goes to non-life threatening conditions? Or from the 70-80% that goes to seniors and/or the chronically ill?

If the desired reductions in cost come from the 20-30% of non-life threatening conditions, then those of you with plantar fasciitis, structural bunions, or neuromas which leave you almost completely unable to walk well you can just get a wheelchare. Those of you with tennis elbow so painful that you can't use your arm at all (even to lift a coffee cup! No swimming or even walking for you - the natural swinging of ones arm is incredibly painful) better get used to living with it. Or, how about those women who are beyond child bearing years but who have gynecological problems such as menorrhagia which render them nearly bed ridden; unable to bend at the waist due to the pain, unable to live any semblance of a normal life due to that pain and the intense, heavy, and nearly constant bleeding (there is a story in the Bible about this). No hysterectomy for you! You can just live with that. How many marriages do you think will be destroyed because of this? How many children will be deprived of a healthy, active mother?

Now, if the desired reductions in cost come from the 70-80%, then the seniors and the chronically ill are absolutely right to be extremely concerned. Health care is for the sick. Cost cutting will, inevitably reduce the level of care available to them. There is no legitimate argument against that. Seniors know that. Parents of adult and underage children who have disabilities and impairments know that. Cutting the health care to those who need it most is wrong in every possible sense. It also goes against the hypocratic oath. But the statists will twist it such that it means nothing more than "do no further harm" thereby justifying just letting the sick and the old die.

As my congressman (Shadegg) said, short of an uprising of the American people, this bill will pass simply due to the numbers. You must speak out! Write to your members of congress (House and Senate); write also to the committee members (Energy and Commerce, Education and Labor, House Ways and Means); write to "big pharma", when you see one of those commericals from "big pharma" write to the show on which it aired, when you see or hear anyone on TV or radio stating something incorrect, write to them and quote the bill proving they're wrong; talk to your doctors about this; discuss with your friends / relatives / everyone you come in contact with. Tell them what is in the bill itself! Challenge them to look for themselves!

This health care debate to address a socalled crisis in health care has been going on in this country for almost 100 years. Know your history. The Truman Administration tried it. It has been tried in congress multiple times: Congressman Foran (The Foran Bill which didn't pass but which has effectively been implemented); Congressman King of CA (The King Bill), etc. The Clinton Administration tried it.

The socialists used to attempt this openly until they realized the American people would never agree to and submit to such socialistic government control (1927, Norman Thomas).

Now they lie and attempt to deceive you into accepting it. Don't fall for it. It's just a foot in the door as it always has been! You need ask yourself why they want this. The answer can only be control. Control over who lives and dies. You don't get much more statist than that.

Friday, August 14, 2009

Summaries added to the healthcare townall post

I've updated the healthcare townhall post to include summaries of vids up to #13 (excluding #7 which has no sound for some strange reason).
Hoping to finish these up by the weekend.
AZ GOP has a youtube channel with more. People waited outside for two hours monday to get into Jeff Flakes townhall.

Monday, August 10, 2009

Video of Shadegg Healthcare Townhall

As I mentioned before, I attended, and recorded, the entire healthcare townhall which Congressman Shadegg hosted Saturday, August 8, 2009. I'll fill in more detail as time allows.

1 Before the Meeting. I see normal people
He makes it clear that he wants your input even if you don't want to share your personal contact information. Contrast this to Congressman Harry Mitchell who won't even take a phone call from you unless you live in his district.
He welcomes everyone regardless of what side of the debate they are on.
And, notice that the first order of business after the announcments, is The Pledge of Allegiance.
He honors his wife Shirley with an introduction.
There were dozens and dozens and dozens of amendments added to HR3200. Republicans added maybe half a dozen small amendments that the Democrats accetpted.
No one knows how long HR3200 really is because the approximate 500 pages of amendments has not been integrated into the 1026 page bill. Nor can you download the entire, intact bill from anyplace.
The bill does have an employer mandate and penalty. It has an individual mandate and penalty. It has a provision that every single plan sold in the USA within 5 years must comport wiht a number of new mandates dictating what must be covered up to and including a new appeals process. Further, any insurance company which wishes to advertise it's plans can only do so puruant to guidelines set by the Federal Govt.
He has indeed read the bill.
HR3200 will prevent insurance companies from selling their plans to anyone other than the dependents of their current customers. Hence. Nor can you change the plan or the premium in any way. This means, of course, that private health insurance will cease to exist.
He destroys the myth that the Republican party has offered no alternatives. There are up to 5 Republican alternatives currently in the house. They are all based on patient choice as opposed to all the majority bills which are based on government control.

He makes a very good point about The Improving Healthcare for all Americans Bill, which he wrote. Most of us get our health insurance through our employers. But, if you want to purchase health insurance outside the plan your employer offers, you get no tax deduction like your employer does when they buy if for you.

The ability to purchase our own private health insurance plans other than through our employers will introduce competition. Competition usually results in a reduction in costs. That is Capitalism at it's best. Entreprenuerial Americans finding a better way to deliver the same products and services for less money.
President Bush signed into law a bill which Congressman Shadegg wrote regarding pre-existing conditions. It put up money for every state in the country to create a state based high risk pool to offer insurance to people with pre-existing conditions such as cancer and other very expensive conditions. This high risk pool would charge between 100%-125% of a person without the condition would pay. BUT, only 22 states have implemented and Arizona is not one of them. (when he said the remaining, um 28 states, i almost shouted at "35" or whatever would add up to 57 - Kirls).
Current federal law requires that all be treated. No one turned away.
First question was about end of life counseling. Why do they want to pay for it when it's free right now?
You like your doctor and can keep him, read page 16 to see otherwise.
He commits to fighting this bill with everything he has! BUT, you must speak out! Talk to your friends, your nieghbors, your golf partner, your bridge partner, your hairdresser, your barber. Absent Americans speaking out, this bill will pass.
FireMarshall announcment of overflow crowd. Police need to clear the doors before the Fire Marshall arrives.
He makes a point which I translate as, ask them specific questions about specific language in the bill.
Second question is on TARP. Apparently this guy comes to every townhall and asks the same question. Shadegg said voting for TARP was a mistake! At the time of the vote, he had many constituents telling him to vote for it at the time as well as a republican secretary of the treasury.
Third person asked a question about the snitching white house email and also why is congress not included in it. Shadegg said no way in the world this plan should pass and NOT be required to apply to members of congress and the president. Republicans offered an amendment to do just that but the Democrats would not even allow it to be voted on. Another amendment was offered to apply it to all federal employees and again, it was not allowed to come to a vote. Another committee did get that amendment into their version. The Rules Committee will decide if that gets included in the final bill - WRITE TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE!

6 Q&A
Regarding the snitch email he says this is an outrage, it's probably illegal, and where is the ACLU. Everyone go home and write to the ACLU and ask why they didn't condemn this and why there isn't a criminal investigation.
Questions about John Podesta, SEIU, Federal Reserve (he signed on to a bill to require an audit.
Question from a young person (probably not old enough to drive) regarding what he would do to abolish other socialistic government run health care programs such as medicare and medicaid.
Great comments from a doctor at about 8 minutes in.

7 Q&A - problem here with the audio.

First guy on this vid says he "comes from the health insurance industry". He makes some points about the unconstitutionality of alot of things being done in this country. He also says he's on the board of a bank. He goes on to say that the pharmaceuticals have donated over $150 million to the Obama Admin in the last 9 months. He points out the failures we know as Amtrak, USPS, and the American Auto Indisutry (except for Ford, at the moment - kirls). He's looking for assurance that it's not going to bankrupt the country.
Congressman Shadegg talks about ERISA which goversn 70% of health care in American including all employer provided health coverage.
Shadegg draws up a bill every year in congress to require every member of congress to recite in the first section of every bill they introduce the specific power of the Constitution granted to the Congress (and i can't hear this part - kirls).
We can't guarantee that it won't bankrupt the Federal Govt. What function has the Federal Govt has taken over which then cost less? NONE! This type of system is bankrupting France.
Marsha Blackburn... TennCare nearly bankrupted the state of Tennessee.
The drug companies... unload on the drug companies. Literally go home tonight and unload on the drug companies. They are running somewhere between $10 and $50 million worth of ads this month promoting Obamacare. You're paying for it. I'm paying for it.
The number one lobbyist for "pharma" is Billy Tauzin a former US Senator from Louisianna. First he was a blue dog dem, then he was a Republican. Unload on pharma! They stand to get rich under the government funding of healthcare. This is a conflict of interest. Those advertisements are an outrage! Go after their national sales people, their reps, company reps, your doctor, everyone!
The next guy tried to film himself AND ask a question. He was a little bit rude too. Wanted to know if Shadegg is "one of the crooks who is just taking bribes and trying to cover his ass".
Shadegg says he's right that there are corrupt Democrats and corrupt Republicans in Congress today. (Someone yells out from right behind me "John Shadegg is not one of them" and he jokes, that's my sister).
Do your own research on the issue that Jeff Flake (R-AZ) has made a single cause - the corruption of the earmark process in congress. tens to hundreds of millions of dollars of earmarks.

9 Q&A - (about a minute and a half of overlap from last segment; that's an error on my part; oh dear, you can hear me giggling like betty rubble! - kirls).
The Republicans need to say that they are against the corrupt system of earmarks or we'll never regain the high ground.
Economics 101 comment. Shadegg says we need to elect this guy to US Congress! Alot of people in the US Congress either do not understand free market economics or simply reject them and believe in some sort of government control / statism / socialism or maybe even communism. When you increase the demand for a given service or product and don't increase the supply, you drive the price up. This is exactly what HR3200 will do. The question was what are we doing to increase the supply. The answer is nothing. The President says the number one issue is cost, he's going to solve it by providing government control. That doesn't add up.
The current system where your employer pays where you consume encourages excess demand and therefore drives the price up. He tells an anecdotal story proving the point. (yes, that's me laughing again. And he might be a little bit mistaken here, my employer lets me know how much my healthcare is "worth" - kirls).
He points out that our employer doesn't buy our auto or home insurance so why should they buy our healthcare now. Right now, your employer stands between you and your doctor. The democrats plan is to take your employer out and put the government in there! You should hire your own insurance plan, your own doctor, your own hospital, and if they don't make you happy, fire 'em!
Fire Marshall warning!

Senior city talked about how she worked and she earned the right to her pension package. She wanted to know what would happen to her and retired people and handicapped people (she made good points but i was sitting there wondering if she could possible speak any slower! The audience growns when she said that's my first question! and yes that's me saying "speed it up, good lord!" - kirls).

Every single plan in America will either go away or will, at a minimum have to meet all kinds of dictates and standards in this new bill. There is no assurance that any plan that you have will remain in effect.

Next question was about tort reform. That would be because there isn't any even though Republicans offered multiple amendments to put it in. The same person asked about preventing fraud in the tax credit provisions in the Republican proposals. The only way to get the tax credit would be that your insurance company would have to certify that you actually paid for insurance (this would be like a 1099 or some such form - kirls).

Next guy wants to know what is going to happen to medicare under HR3200 and the military Tricare.

Shadegg says that all the things that are most individuals are most interested in are in the first 50 pages and it is not hard to understand. He followed that up with some wonderful snark that if John Conyers, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, can't understand it, he should get a new job!

(about 30 seconds of overlap here - kirls) Shadegg points out that NO member of Congress could have read the Cap & Trade Bill when it was voted on, they are a liar.

Medicare changes because they are doing away with Medicare Advantage.

VA is not protected under this bill, Tricare is allowed to remain in effect.

The next fellow is a disabled retired Veteran. He challenges us all to tell anyone who supports the single payer plan to spend a day with a Veteran at the VA! He also wants to know why he can't call the doctor and ask about specific prices of particular procedures.

Shadegg points out that the current system does not allow competition.

Shadegg talks about why we have to pay for private insurance with after tax dollars but our employers are allowed to use pre-tax dollars (ie, it's a tax deductible expense) which results in the business being incentivized to provide insurance. This takes the choice away from the individual. If your employer gives you the cash and you spend it on health care benefits it's not taxable to your employer and it's not taxable to you. This situation also causes employers to not care about cost control.

Next question was assuming this passes, if we take the white house back in 2012 how easy is this easy to rescind. And would a few Republicans please stand up to Nancy Peloso.

Shadegg said absent an uprising by the American people, this will pass. It's extremely difficult to repeal any government program once it's put in place.

As for Nancy Pelosi, her vision of America is stunningly to the left.

Next guy exhorted us to stay engaged in this! Shadegg said tell your friends, your barber, your hair dresser, your bank teller, your checker. You all are informed Americans who are respected by people who know you. If you tell them this bill is terrible or that we should have a patient driven plan or that your employer shoudn't pick your health care plan....

The electronic transfer of funds...

Shadegg points out that it's true and begins on page 57 and continues on page 58. And he read it to us ... "Secretary shall adopt and regularly update standards consistent with the goals in paragraph 2" then there are goals for transactions for administrative transactions.... "real time or near real time determination of an individuals financial responsibility at the point of serve and at the extent possible prior to the service including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility which may include the use of a machine readable health plan beneficiary identification card". Many Americans are rightfully concerned that that means government access directly to your bank account to see if you qualify for discounted service. There is a provision later that says they can't misuse that information. (at this point someone yelled out, it sounds fishy! lol - kirls)
Next speaker was Gayle Plato of The Sonoran Alliance who is ProLife and wanted to know if she could sue to stop the funding of abortions. Absolutely she can but how successful will that be? The alleged compromise offered by the pro-choice members of the committee which was, of course, opposed by the Pro-Life members. Shadegg thinks we can beat the bill.
Next guy thanked him for reading the bill and wanted to know where the money was going to come from. Shadegg said that Dems are spending at unprecedented pace and every American ought to be deeply troubled. The culture of spending has to be broken.
He goes on to talk about SChip, DISH, Medicaid, etc.

(From this point the vids get a bit jumpy since I’m standing in line waiting my turn to speak – Kirls)

Shadegg says he’s doing everything he can. He will go anywhere at anytime to fight this. We can’t win this without you! What can you do? Reach out and pound on the Senate. Not a snowballs chance that either of our (AZ) senators will vote wrong on this bill. But there is a very good chance that some Republican Senators (like from Iowa) will vote for it. Write to them!
Ben Nelson Democrat from Nebraska – write to him! He doesn’t want to vote for this bill but the leftists are running ads attacking him. Write to him and other conservative democrats and encourage them to stand by their convictions!
Utah Republican might sign onto a compromise. Write to them too!
Next guy is State Representative John Cavanaugh. He lives in Harry Mitchells congressional district. His question … an attempt to prohibit the coverage of illegal immigrants under this bill was voted down. He said you think this room was crowded then wait until you see this country when the world figures out that we are giving away free health care.
Shadegg said proponents say it does not give free health care to illegals and will point to provisions which say you must be a US citizen and it replicates current law. BUT, there is no current mechanism by which citizenship is verified before care is provided. Those were the amendments which were defeated. Thus you need to point out that the provisions contained therein are unenforceable.This next woman I can barely hear on the vid although she was loud and clear in person. That guy in front of me with the red and blue hat turned out to be a nut who thought he was performing as a standup comedian (I don’t think I filmed him because I thought he was so incredibly stupid) – kirls)

This vid starts with people in the crowd asking about Congress and Senate supporting we the people.
Shadeggs staff got 50 emails in a single day for a townhall so they decided to hold one. (I can attest to this being true since I’m one of the people who called insisting he have one - Kirls)
Shadegg things that Kyl and McCain will fight this tooth and nail (frankly, I’m tired of calling and begging Kyls hired idiots to have a townhall! – kirls)
Next guy is a small business owner… protect and defend freedom from any threat military, economic, or political. He has achieved enough success that he has been able to provide insurance for all his employees. But the premiums go up every year. As an employer, he does get to shop the big companies.

Competition!!!! That is the answer to lowering costs!
Shadeggs bill says you can choose the plan offered by your employer or you can pick your own. It also creates “pools” of individuals. His bill allows the creation of more pooling mechanisms. Why is it only employers who can form a pool? Why can’t any organization be able to create a pool? Like the Daughters of American Revolution, or the University of Arizona Alumni association, or the Kiwanis, or ANY organization.
Benefit mandates come from CONGRESS and state government and they are the same entities which then scream about the cost of health care! It’s the government which says to the insurance industry that you cannot sell a scaled down plan which might be all that you can afford. So, it’s the government which has driven up
The cost of auto insurance, life insurance, home owners insurance, the cost of shirts (!) isn’t going up at 3x the rest of the economy. But the cost of health care insurance is, WHY!??! There is no competition! We should be able to buy insurance on the same tax advantage basis as employers.
Shadegg’s staffer brought a note to him… John McCain is having a townhall on August 25th. Location TBD.
(And here we have one of the only supporters of a public option. Note how Shadegg destroyed his arguments without being the least bit unpleasant even though the guys points were so simplistic, shallow, uninformed – kirls)
The guy says…. When I went to school, that was a public option. We have a public option police force, military, fire fighters, how come health care is that much more or less important than either of those things?
Shadegg said… public safety and national defense are the first obligation of the government (per the founding fathers). This country also has a tradition believing in universal education. But, if we need a public option to keep the health insurance/care industry honest then do we need one for fast food, the automobile industry (laughter), suits, shirts, etc? It is a slippery slope to say we need a public option. Do we need a public option for life insurance, homeowners insurance, auto insurance.
Old guy yelled at those are all voluntary.

Applause after the old guy said those things are all voluntary.
Richard Gross, card holder of medicare, Korean Vet, wants to know what these plans will do to the cost of Medicare insurance? He’s quite happy with his medicare insurance and wants it left alone.
Shadegg says he doesn’t know the answer but they are going to change medicare at least by doing away with medicare advantage and you will get end of life counseling services.
Seller of health insurance and health savings accounts. He created his own solution and handed it to Congressman Shadegg. (That’s cool! Citizens inventing solutions. I love this guy! – Kirls) Not just Premiums should be deductible. Copays, co-insurance, deductibles, eye wear, doctor visits, dental, all these items should be tax deductible! (applause). He asks can these items be made deductible. Shadeggs answer, Not under THIS congress.
Child psychologist and mother of an autistic. Wants to talk about mental health parity and possible discriminatory practices that insurance companies may be doing against mental health providers and consumers.
Shadegg said mental health parity is debated in congress a lot. There may be a societal bias. People need to demand the right to decide if they can buy this type of coverage themselves!
Next comment about vaccinations… The H1N1 contains squaline which was contained in the anthrax vaccinations given to our Gulf War Veterans. Our Federal Government makes the pharmaceuticals or anyone who engages in the vaccination process unaccountabl; we cannot sue them.
Shadegg is aware of the issue and asked the lady to go to his staff in the back for more detailed discussions.
How does your bill or Representative Ryan’s bill address tort reform?
All of the Republican bills address embrace the concept of tort reform… because the vast majority of Republicans believe that the tort system is a big factor in the cost of medical care because doctor’s pay high malpractice premiums and they practice defensive medicine. Shadeggs bill was not written as a comprehensive bill including tort reform; it would be paired with a tort reform Bill. Shadeggs bill is focused on patient choice; putting you in the drivers seat behind your own health care.
Who wrote this atrocity?
I don’t know. Often on legislation, the chairmen of a committee will draft a bill then ask the ranking (minority, in this case Republican) member for input. In this case, Chairman Waxmen never, never, ever, EVER once, to my knowledge, invited Joe Barton (the ranking minority member) or Nathan Deal (ranking member of the health subcommittee) into the room or even gave them a copy to comment on or make any change to. There was NO bipartisanship.

The protest you saw by blue dogs… they weren’t invited into the room. So this bill was written by a pretty narrow group of the most liberal democrats on the congress committee and/or in the house.
But, do the congressmen actually write it?
I don’t know how much Mr. Waxman’s staff, or Miller’s staff, or Rangel’s staff wrote the bill. I do know that there is some evidence that lobbyists for the insurance industry wrote parts of the bill. 70% of health care in USA is governed by ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act of ~ 1987). After it was written, the SCOTUS ruled that if you get your health care from your employer under an ERISA plan and that plan wrongfully denies you care you cannot sue the plan for damages. You can sue doctors for malpractice but not the plan even if it intentionally denies you care that you are entitled to. This is the law in America today and it is a moral outrage. Shadegg followed this up with a true story of this exact thing happening already thanks to United Health Care denying a pregnant woman hospitalization even though her doctor and the insurance company’s doctor both said that if she was not hospitalized she and her baby may very well die. The baby did die. Now, read page … Page 49 lines 19-22
In this bill, the ruling of ERISA saying that insurance companies that sell ERISA plans are immune, are applied to employer provided plans going forward.
Shadegg confronted Waxman about that point. Waxman turned as red as the red stripe on that flag. Last week Pelosi called the health insurance industry crooks, evil and that Pelosi was going to destroy them and that their day of ruling America is over in a bill where she cut, what Shadegg thinks, is a secret backroom deal to give them immunity when they kill or hurt somebody in insurance coverage denials.
But, if you’re in a government run healthcare plan, this doesn’t apply. Is that an outrage or what?

Page 49 lines 19-22 says the immunity that ERISA plans now enjoy if they negligently or intentionally wrongfully deny you care, you can recover nothing. Now, how did Pelosi let that sneak into the bill. Congress should have repealed that section. Why should the insurance companies enjoy immunity when they kill someone?
Canadians. Walk on Washington September 12. Who should we contact/see about this issue? What happens when you’re 65? Doctor’s do not get paid as much if you’re 65 than if you’re 64.
They get paid less because it’s government provided health care and the government cheats the providers.
Hospice nurse is appalled at the plan. What else can we do? Speak out!
This comment about the FDA was a bit strange. Woman said that we should be able to take herbs and nutrition for prevention and cures instead of just popping pills. (duh! I can take all the herbs and good nutrition that I want). The FDA is a big government bureaucracy that abuses people.
(At this point they asked me to give up my turn to a woman with a severe disorder which I di, of course, without question). Woman has a rare disorder, problems since birth, formerly more functional, need one more surgery and would like to have the chance to have it and not have some board tell me I’m not worth saving (applause). My parents worked all their lives to save me. My dad worked two jobs. They didn’t get government help. He paid for it.
Shadegg said God Bless You! Retold her story and said I think everyone in this room believes she ought to have that surgery. This is why we need to reform health care. Every American believes this young lady should have that shot and we can do it but we can do it without creating a system which says that at a certain age in life you’re no longer worth caring for. Her concern was that at some point some government board would say to her keeping you alive or giving you greater functionality is not worth it to some board. (yes, that’s me you hear sniffling. Not a dry eye in the house! - Kirls)
Locally elected official said go to Questioned how this bill would affect state legtislators. This bill massively moves authority over health care from the state government to the federal government.
(First person here is me – Kirls)
Thanks for coming today I really appreciate you educating me that you really are on the right side of this issue. I really appreciate that. My medical care, my health insurance, my doctors, my medication (what I do and don’t take), and my procedures (what I do and don’t have done) will never under any circumstance be the business of the federal government.
Shadegg said “There you go!” followed by applause.
Weird suggestion to write a bill that no one can use private money for medical care “to spite the democrats”.
Comment about getting the word out! The Republicans are not the party of NO but the party of KNOW. Mainstream media won’t cover what the Republicans are offering. It’s patient choice! You make your health care decisions. If you want your employers plan, take it. If you don’t, go buy your own but do so with the same tax advantaged basis.
Where is the RNC putting out these details about these Republican alternatives? The RNC has spoken out. You can help fill that gap. Shadegg promises to pressure Michael Steele but you go on his website and download the bill and give it to your friends.
Last comment was would you support a bill to automatically impeach anyone who votes for a bailout. Shadegg obviously had seen this fellow before. (Turns out he was a staunch libertarian and I heard him talking up Ron Paul as I left – Kirls)

Congress trying to buy TWELVE jets, not four. Rank Hypocrisy!

Just heard this on the local radio. Will try to find a reputable web source to verify.

Wall Street Journal says it's EIGHT.

Frankly, I don't care what the number is. During this time of recession and economic troubles Members of Congress can fly coach like the rest of us! Stinking hypocrits!

Speaking of hypocrits, the POR regime (that's Pelosi, Obama, Reid) are beyond the pale whinging about the opposition being organized when the Presidents own website has instructions on how to organize. Wimps! Just like when you were in elementary school, aren't they? What was it we said as children? "You can dish it out, but you can't take it"?

Sunday, August 09, 2009

AZ Congressman Shadegg Heatlhcare Townhall

Yesterday, Saturday, August 8, 2009. I was there. I recorded the entire 3 hours (working to get some of this up on youtube) but here are some bits in text...

I was there about an hour early to ensure a good seating location (heh. to ensure a seat at all!)

I choose to be one of the last ones to speak since I was filming.

After the near-blind woman spoke, saying that her father worked two jobs to pay for her health care, I couldn't speak. Many in the audience, as was i, were moved to tears. I waited for someone else to speak. Then, when I had composed my self, I said...

"Thank you for coming today. I really appreciate you educating me that you really are on the right side of this issue. I appreciate that. I have one thing to say ...

My health care, my health insurance, my doctors, my medications, what i do and don't take, my procedures, that i do and don't have done, will never, under any circumstance be the business of the federal government."

Wow. What was left of the audience vigorously applauded me along with my congressman who said, "there you go" while clapping!

Congressman Shadegg gave us some advice too. He said go home, talk to everyone you know about this. Show them what is in the bill.

He said don't just write to your members of congress. Write to the committee chairs, the minority leaders of the various committees. Write members of congress in other states who are supporting the government takeover of all healthcare and insurance. If you don't know who they are, go to (at the top of the page are two dropdown, the second one is to the committees websites). Go to and click committees. You want the Energy and Commerce Committee, the Education and Labor Committee, and the House Ways and Means Committee.

Furthermore, he said to write to the RNC, the DNC, the news entities, pharmaceutical companies! Write to anyone and everyone who is supporting this outrage!
I assure you that Congressman Shadegg is definitely on the right side of this issue. I'm so glad he changed his mind about retiring! We need people like him in congress now more than ever.

Update: Some screen caps...

The Bill (HR3200)

Some of the (Very few) signs that made it over from the protest at Congressman Mitchells office:

Change is More

This is a picture of an actual sign near Durham, North Carolina sent to me by a relative. God how I love Southerners!

Friday, August 07, 2009

Democrats unhappy with the Mob

I don't know what the Democrats are so unhappy about with people exercising their first amendment rights. I mean, the Dems have been crowing about how we live in a Democray for the last 100 years (we don't; we live in a Representative Republic) and now when they get a taste of actual Democracy (MOB rule), they're whinging! Pathetic Hypocrits!

By the way, my new mob name shall be Kirly the Crainky (Conservative Christian) Capitalist!

UPDATE: speaking of hypocrits...